New Winchester Gun Safe Models for 2010

This just in, Winchester Gun Safes models new for 2010. Winchester as you know is based in Fort Worth, Texas. Some of the new features I want to point out on these safes are…. First Winchester has increased the fire rating temps on all its models. Plus all but the Ranger series has “4 way bolt action”. Before I go to far I should point out what that means to you and me.  Lets take a look at the door opening in the picture on the details page.  Other manufacturers put the bolts on the hinge side that are fixed or welded into spot or, as with the case of internal hinges, there are none.  However with Winchester series they have gone to the added  expense of having more secure bolt work where the hinge side, top side, bottom side, and opening side all move. Just like on a jewelry vaults. Another important feature to point out is they increased the quality of the fire resistant material. Please note the external tempature has gone from a good rating of 1200 degrees to 1400 degrees. The 4 new models are…(hear the drum roll)…. The Supreme, Silverado, Western, and Ranger gun safes.

Winchester Supreme Gun Safe is first in the rankings. It is rated for 2 hour fireproof with 20, 2 inch thick bolts.  That’s amazing, its positively top of the line in quality, integrity, and strength. I’m so impressed with it that I  give it a solid 10 rating on my “Cool” scale.  Now with pistol pockets and 4 way bolt action as standard on this model.

The Winchester Siverado Gun Safes have replaced the Legacy series. This series is rated for 1 1/2 hour fireproof and has 1 1/2 inch thick bolts. It also comes  the 4 way bolt action like jewelry vault as a standard feature. But to go further,  they made the door thicker. Its huge at almost 6 inches thick! Thats alot gun safe for this kinda money.

Winchester Western Gun Safes series are rated for 1 hour fireproof and use 1.25 inch thick bolt (are you getting the impression that while other manufactures are going cheaper quality and price, Winchester is going up in quality but not in price?) Very impressive gun safe. Solid built with top of the line steel and of course UL listed lock just like on the best models.  Again with the 4 way action bolt work.  Other companies are going to have to step up their game to compete on this level.

Winchester Ranger Gun Safes is the entry level gun safe. But don’t get this safe confused with anything sold in a big box retailer. For an entry level gun safe this is one of the best. Its not cheap or flimsy. Very well made 45 minute fireproof and excellant bolt work. Though this model only have 2 way action bolts, it locks solid and is a very good deal for the money. (note that most models in this price range only have moving bolts on the door opening side and fixed on the hinge side…this is another impressive upgrade from Winchester).  I also want to point out something small and that is the quality of the liner or carpet on the inside.  Normally gun safes in this catagory cheap out and use what we call “mouse fur” for the liner. Which is really cheap crap.  But not Winchester.  The are still using a very high quality upgraded material even on this entry level model.

Overall Winchester Gun Safes are changing the way the industry is looking at gun safes.  Bringing quality, workmanship, and a better product to the gun collector.  All this for extremely reasonable prices.  I hope this helps in your search for gun safes. Check out our prices here Winchester Gun Safes.

TRTL-30×6 Jewelry Safes are at the top of the ladder of commercial safes.  Lets start with what it means. First it is a label from UL or Underwriters Labratory.  So if you see any TRTL-30×6 you know its been tested and certified for what it is.

The TRTL stands for ToRch and TooL resistant. 30×6 means for 30 minutes of tool time burning or spinning on each side of the safe.  That is more impressive than it sounds. Because the average blow torch really isn’t going to do much damage on the safe. UL will use what is called a “Lance” which is like a blow torch on Mega steroids and a complete asbestos suit must be worn during its use.  Because the user will be submerged in a cloud of sparks and smoke the likes that no blow torch can through off.

It is also important to point out that even though it says 30 minutes of tool time or burn time.  The actual amount of time it would take to do this test is hours!  Because they are using a stop watch during the test, they will start and stop the watch several times and allow the metal to cool before they can put plastic cameras in the hole to scope the lock or see where they are inside the safe.

TRTL-30×6 safes are normally not found in homes and are designed mainly for banks and very high end jewelry stores. Don’t get me wrong we have sold these to individuals for home use and we set them in their garage.  Virtually turning them into a bank.

The TRTL-30×6 is very much over kill for most situations unless your insurance company has told you that is what you need.  We do get many people calling wanting this ultimate in maximum security safes and most times I try to discourage or at least tell them to talk with their insurance company before they buy one.

New TRTL-30×6 safes can run as much as $30,000.  Which is why we don’t carry any new models in stock. However, we do have refurbished models that start around $5000 and that includes shipping. See TRTL-30×6 safes.

Hollon Depository Safes are now available on our site.  Models HDS-01K, HDS-2014K, HDS-2014E, FD-3020E, and FD-3020ck.  The folks at Hollon Safe have done a great job on these models.  Very solid structural integrity and reading to take a beating from any would be thief!  All models are designed to be bolted to the ground or any available surface.  The HDS-01K can also be wall mounted. (Just make sure you have some substance to screw into besides sheet rock…at over 40 lbs is will pull itself out of the sheet rock).  We have also decided to make these our featured drop safes on our site this month and you will find some very affordable prices going on now.

Hollon Safes

We have just started carrying the Hollon Safes on our site. I’ve known about them for a long time however, they have always been a little more expensive than similar brands like Cobalt Safe or Gardall Safes.  That is until recently.  In the spring both companies had a huge 30% increase in wholesale prices.  Well, that made the Hollon Safes a much better deal.

Quality of Hollon Safes has always been a little better than similar type safes made from other manufacturers.  They have a tendency to put in more bolts in their safes. Take for instance the Cobalt SB-02c it has 3 bolts on the door opening side and 3 fixed bolts on the hinge side. (Gardall model FB-2013 is the same as the SB-02c) However, when you open the Hollon Safe HS-685 you see three bolts on the door opening side, 1 bolt going into the top, and another going into the bottom. PLUS a 1 inch thick locking bar that goes from top to bottom.  That is the thickest hinge side locking bar in the industry that I am aware of.

Safes Lock: Notice that Hollon Safe is equiping ALL thier safes with a Group 1 Electronic lock.  They have moved away from lesser secure Group II dials that other manufacturers are using.  The CE Digital lock comes with “LockOut” technology that has a time delay feature and is activated if the wrong number is entered more than 3 times. The lock will reset after 10 minutes for correct code entry. Did I mention is was a High security Group I lock? This is much more secure than a dial as dial can have a “Safe Dialer” machine hooked to it and automactically dial open the safe within hours!  This keypad also has an 8-bit micro processor chip with NON-Volitale memory. It maintains customer code even without batteries. Your secret code can program with 4-16 digits. (more code options) Its also free to change the code on when ever you want. Unlike dials that require a locksmith to change the combination. Cost is around $75 each time you want to change the code.  Many people ask me if a dial will outlast a keypad in a fire.  Both the dial and the keypad is ruined after a fire.  Keypads are also not suseptable to “drifting” like a dial will. (Drifting is when a dials code gets changed through use. The code maybe 25-50-75 and then it shifts and becomes 26-50-75.  But the dial doesn’t tell it shifted. You just can’t get into the safe one day)

Popular brands of Dials are Sargent & Greenleaf or LaGard.  Both established themselves as leaders in the field and were considered long lasting and made in Kentucky.  However, both companies have since been sold and both companies now make thier locks in the “eastern part” of the USA known as China.  I have found these Chinese dials to not be up to the original manufacture quality.  These locks have a nasty reputation for drift and wearing out due assembly quality and parts.  However, if you speak with your local locksmith he may not be aware of the changes and he may state that “These dials will last forever”.  (Do you know of anything mechanical that lasts forever?  Me either.) 

To wrap things up Hollon Safes are really offering a superior quality safe and has done more to protect their customers than most competitive safes.  Check out their 2 Hour Fire & Burglary Safes.

Hmmm, good question right?  You will often find that Home Safes are in two catagories. Factory Rated 1 hour fireproof home safes or UL listed 1 hour fireproof home safes.  Factory rated means that the factory has designed the safe for what they think it would take to pass a UL test or had a less reputable testing facility test the safe. 

The guys at Underwriters Labratory are the most abusive on a product.  I have seen some factory rated products pass at half the “factory rated time!”  Such as a 2 hour rated safe lasting for only 1 hour. 

I have also seen some companies that make a fireproof home safe sent to UL for testing then get passed at 1 hour. The design gets sent off to an ultra cheap overseas manufacture facility that cuts corners and doesn’t produce the safe properly so it would never pass the UL test again.  I often find these in the big box retailers.  I challange them to take one off the shelf and get it retested and see if it passes.

Always get the advise of an expert.  Start with your local locksmith and work your way out from there. Remember, even my opinion is just that…an opinion.

Mutual Gun Safes model MS-5922

Lets start by looking at the fireproof material used on the MS-5922 gun safe.  The use of a sheetrock fireboard material and the U.L. approved heat activated door seal provide enough protection to protect from fires. The Mutual Gun Safe is lab tested in a oven chamber at 1760 degrees degrees Fahrenheit for 60 minutes.  While staying at or below 350 internal.  Lots of people ask me “Why 350 degrees?” because just above that tempature paper starts to char and can flash fire at 400 degrees.  So this is very good protection from a house fire.

The Mutual Gun Safe is also equipped with a full arsenal of anti-burglary features.

1.The locking bolts are a massive one inch in diameter.

2.There are at least three dead bolts facing the hinge side, one active bolt at the top, and at least five active bolts along the closing side.

3. The lock is protected from punch-out attempts by a Manganese (HRC 60 hardness) hardplate.

4. The LaGard Dial Lock is a Group II lock and has a spring-loaded relocker. (LaGard is an American lock maker, excellant reputation)

5. There are two bolt-down holes predrilled at the bottom of the safe that accommodate standard 1/2″ bolts to keep the safe where it is meant to stay.

5. 10 Gauge steel which is the largest size used just before you increase to plating.  Many popular gun safe brands you see around are actually a thinner guage of steel such as 14 or 16….larger number means thiner steel. Many of these safes use a 1 inch bolt on their safe too but because the steel is thinner the wall of the safe expands when it gets crowbar attacked.  I personally suggest not to get anything thinner than a 10 guage steel.

These features make the Mutual Gun Safe MS-5922 an excellant choice for a gun safe.  To get a better look see MS-5922.

LaGard Audit Lock and its Compatability.

LaGard Audit locks have been around for many years now and have become one of the most reliable locks used in tracking events at a safe.  It does take a computer to download the information to the lock.  Which is not a problem until recently.   With the new introduction of Windows Vista however, things have changed.  And the software that is loaded on the computer is not compatible with Windows Vista.  It is compatible with EVERYTHING else in the industry.

The AuditGard is a multi-user electronic combination lock that provides superior access control. The lock can be programmed with a Controller, a Manager and eight Users. The AuditGard has a 512 event audit with time and date stamp. Other programmable features include Dual Token (eKey or eKey II), Dual Combination, Time Delay, Time Delay Override (User 9), Silent Alarm, and Remote Signal Override to disable the lock. The AuditGard electronic lock series was designed to increase accountability in the commercial safe market.

The Windows™ based LG-Audit Setup Software has a user-friendly interface, which allows the lock to be configured directly from a PC. Software features include the ability to vary combination lengths, user activation, lock mode selection, external signal mode selection (used with the 2789 and 4002 alarm boxes) and the setting of time delay values. The LG-View Auditing Software is an essential tool for loss prevention, featuring a searchable audit trail with time and date stamp which provides knowledge of who accessed the lock and when.
If you need more information or would like to talk with us regarding your personal situation.  Feel free to call one of our American Technicians. I would be happy to talk with you further. 877-629-6214

Tidel TACC V depository safe from Tidel Safes. 

Don’t think of purchasing a safe when you look at the Tidel TACC V or the TACC 5 as some people like to call it.  Instead, think of it has hiring an employee that never needs a break or a raise. Excellant cash management safe. 

I say that because when you get a TACC V you get a machine that becomes the accountant/banker for the store.  No money goes out of the TACC V without money being deposited AND varified.  This unit will also tell you “who” has been doing what. Making withdrawals, deposits, and requests. You even get a printed report when ever you need one so that it can be used to cross refrence the register. 

So now you are doing more than stopping external theft but are concentrating on the internal theft of the business. Each Tacc 5 comes with:

To get pricing on the Tidel Safes model TACC V

 Tidel TACC III cash management safe. Also know as a depository safe.  This model is the next one up from the Tidel Tacc II a.  For those that want a little more control of the money.  Tidel Safes have been made famous because of their relationship with 7-11 convience stores.  Many of the orginal models from the eighties are still in use today.  You can’t say that about other computer based anything!  Tidel tells me that over 80% of convience stores use one of their TACC models today.

The TACC III combines the TACC IIa platform with expanded audit trail and reporting through an all new PIN based tracking system.

The touchscreen interface allows managers and clerks to quickly record deposits and make change while keeping an accurate count on each days transactions. Making close out at the end of the day much faster.

Customizeable reports allow for detailed tracking of cash amounts vended, drops, cash in system, and more.

This proven TACC platform, built on the power of the Windows CE Operating System, will allow your business better cash security, streamlined reporting and time saved during closeouts.

Power Requirements: 110V AC or 220V 50 cycle.Power Connections:
Unit must be connected to a dedicated power circuit consisting of “line”, “neutral” and “ground” leads or connected to the optional Tidel surge protector.

• State-of-the-Art Xscale Processor
• Windows CE Operating System
• Multiple User Tracking Via PIN Based Touchscreen Interface
• Stores up to 48,000 Transactions in Non-Volatile Memory
• Language Interface Tailored for Each User
  (English, Spanish, French, German and Dutch Currently Available)
• System Upgrades Made Easy Through Compact Flash Module
• Provides a Comprehensive Array of Reports and Summaries
  to Track Employee Usage
• Keyless Vault Doors
• 1/4 Inch Powder Coated Steel Plate Body and Door
• Dual Anti-Fish Drop Chutes to the Storage Vault
• RoHS Lead-Free Compliant
  Go here for more information on the TACC III cash management safe.