Archive for May, 2008
Thursday, May 29th, 2008
Floor Safe model FS-2300B is made the medium size polyethylene safe in this series. Hayman Safe is the one that holds the patent and makes this floor safe. I get a lot of comments in regards to “Plastic SAFES?!?!”  Yes its plastic but no its not plastic like you think. The only portion that is plastic is the safes body. Which will be surrounded by concrete. There are also metal straps securing the floor safe door to the safe body. So for practical purposes all you will see is a steel safe door and concrete. “But why plastic?” So it won’t rust.Â
You will read in many of my other posts about how to protect your steel floor safe from rusting. Here is the answer. After Hurricane Charley in Florida a customer called me out to her house. Her Hayman Floor safe had been submerged by salt water. The water had drain away and she needed it fixed. Only the dial needed replacement as it was starting to stick. So I replaced the dial. Used some lubricant in the bolts just to be on the safe side and a coat of rustolium on the door..more as preventative measure. The body was fine. She is still using it today without any problems.
In my opinion, if you are installing a floor safe, always buy a B-rated floor safe. And if budget allows get one with the plastic body. Its not a lot more and it adds years to the life of the safe.
This model also has the newly redesigned door that uses steel wall instead of a steel bolts to lock the door in place. Spring loaded hinges make for easy opening and closing of the door. Get it with the dial. NEVER add a keypad to floor safes. You will be only courting disaster as the electronics can get wet…and they do.Â
One last item. Please note the outside of the safe looks strange. Its not smooth and straight like a steel floor safe. This has two purposes. It allows concrete to grip the safe better than a smooth surface and forms shelves on the inside of the floor safe to put things on and help you stay organized.
Overall its one of the top of the line floor safes on the market today. Once the is inground and covered with its steel plate. Its hard to find and even harder to remove from the foundation. Its also a very good size.?
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Wednesday, May 28th, 2008
 Hayman floor safe model FS-1200-B is the smallest of the polyethelene floor safes. Has the NEW Single wall bolt system. Which is a great design and much more secure than the typical B-rated floor safe.  Instead of using seperate bolts to lock the door it has a HUGE wall size bolt that closes behind the side wall of the floor safe. I can invision all safes going to this type of bolt work in the future. It great design idea that really strengthens the door.
The bigest down fall to steel floor safes in the past has been rust! If you have read my other posts concerning floor safes I have given several ideas on how to slow down the rusting process. But Hayman Safes has made this easy on us. With the patented new style of in floor safe. Polyethelene body will not rust in the ground once it is cemented in place. This will add decades of life to your floor safe.
The minor negative on this floor safe is that it does not have “Spring loaded hinges” , Instead it is a lift out door. The weight of which is around 20 lbs. If you are elederly or have little arm strength, you will not want to get this model for that reason. Why they didn’t put spring loaded hinges in this model? Because its small.Â
Don’t worry about the size of this floor safe. It still has huge strength and a B rating.
- Group II combination lock
- Drill resistant hard plate
- Spring loaded active relocker bolt
- 1/2″ solid steel door
- Rust proof polyeurathane bodies
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- NEWLY RE-DESIGNED Bolt System! Fantastic Single Wall Bolt
- 9 3/4″ x 11″ Door opening
- 7 3/4″ x 11″ Door clearance
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Monday, May 26th, 2008
Floor Safes model B2500 is both a B-Rated floor safe and bigger unit. Though not as big as the FS-B4 it is just as strong with a triple bolt to seal the door and a drill resistant hardplate over the door. This floor safe is worth the money and time it will take to install it. The body is made of 1/4 inch steel and once concreted in place you will have a super good floor safe.
I have pointed out on my other posts but figure I should point it on this one as well. To add a longer life to the steel body of the safe. Be sure to wrap it in a plastic bag or a thick painters drop cloth from the hardware store. A locksmith friend of mine wraps his in a Hefty Lawn and Leaf bag before he sets it in the ground and adds concrete. This will protect the steel in safe from moisture and rusting. Literally adding years of life to your floor safes usability.
I almost forgot to mention the spring loaded hinge in the door for easy opening and closing. Why the spring loaded hinge? Because of all the steel and hardplate in the door makes the the door very heavy. Smaller models don’t have spring loaded hinges and the safe head must be lifted out of the way. It may not sound like a big deal but wait until you are on your knees in the back of a dark closet. If its convient you will use the safe. If its a pain in the arse….you won’t use it as much. These are some real observations on my part.
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Saturday, May 24th, 2008
Isn’t that a cool headline? I thought it was a real attention grabber and I will explain here in a moment. But before I do that I want to talk about what to look for when searching safes and trying to decide about which safe will get you the best protection for the best price. I have found from Wall Safes, Fireproof Home Safes, Fire Safes & Burglary Safes, Biometric Safes, Fingerprint Safes, Security Safes, and Depository Safes like Drop safes. I personally think that Floor Safes are one of the best Safes for home or business and I’ll tell you why.
First you can purchase B-Rated floor safes for very affordable prices. As a matter of fact B-rated floor safes are the most affordable type of B-rated safe in the industry. If you are new to looking at safes you are probably asking yourself “Why a B-Rated safe? What makes a safe B-Rated anyway?”
Underwriters Labratory (UL) assigns a B-rating to burglary safes. They need to meet a certain set of standards such as a minimum of 1/4 inch steel on the body. Half inch steel in the door with drill resistant hardplate. Group II lock or Group I electronic keypad. Must also be able to hold up to a minimum amount of crowbar and sledge hammer attacks. But becarefull, just because it has a UL listed on the label doesn’t mean it passed their B-Rating test. It could stand for something else about the safe such as the lock.
Once installed in concrete you get several benfits. Like fireproofing from the concrete wrapped around the safe. It is hidden and covered metal plate so you can roll carpet or a rug over it. Staying hidden is a key security component because “out of sight is truely out of mind”.  This way a thief can’t even start to break into it.Â
Second is, if they do find it. Breaking into one is next to impossible. I have several manufactures that tout their floor safe doors have NEVER been breached in a theft attempt. Thats impressive to me and it should be reassuring to you.
The reason floor safes are the choice safe for drug dealers is so they can hide cash and their drug of choice in a floor safe. Drug sniffing dogs have a very difficult time sniffing through all the steel, concrete, and carpeting. The police just can’t locate the safe. Now if a drug dog and police can’t find the safe, and they are looking for it. Just think what a thief will find and he is only going to search by himself in a 3-8 minute period!
Before you get too excited, yes, there is a negative side to floor safes. That is if you want to install one in a slab that has already been poured, its a lot of work and very messy. I actually installed one in drug dealers house before he went to prison. He took my receipt and his reciept and burned it on the driveway. Vowing me to silence. I have deleted that job from my computers and mind and to this day I don’t even remember the location or the guy. (Don’t want too either)
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Wednesday, May 21st, 2008
The FS-4000B is the top floor safe in the market of the floor safes world. Polyethelinc body to prevent rust and moisture seepage from the ground. I have seen many steel floor safes in Florida that were starting to take on rust and moisture after only a few years. I have a secret about installing the steel bodied safes but you will have to read about in the other floor safes articles.Â
 Drill resistant hardplate steel door slows even the best “safe crackers” down to a snails pace. Concrete this floor safe into place and you can take a nice long vacation to Key West Florida and don’t worry about a ting. Just sit back beneath your favorite palm tree with no worries.
The other day I had a phone call the other day from a guy in west Texas. He wanted a safe that nobody could put a lasso around and tie to the bumper of their truck and pull it out of the house. Whoa Nelly! Gotta love those folks in West Texas. He choose a floor safe to concrete into his foundation and cover up with carpet. To date he (or anyone else for that matter) has had his floor safe discovered.
A great hiding place makes this a top rated security safe of choice. I even had a home owner call me one time when she was changing the carpet out in the master bedroom. She said she had lived there for 2 years and never new there was a floor safe under the carpet. We came over and got her going with a new combination and replaced the lid just before the carpet layers rolled out fresh carpet to hide the floor safe.Â
But back to the FS-4000B. Good and roomy with lots of interior shelving to keep the contents sorted and uncluttered. Spring loaded safe door for easy in and out. Sargent & Greenleaf dial lock that is one of the top locks made in Kentucky and shipped around the world. (One of America’s many export products)
Needless to say I give this safe a major thumbs up. Great quality and a great design.
- Group II combination lock
- Drill resistant hard plate
- Spring loaded active relocker bolt
- 1/2″ solid steel door
- Rust proof polyeurathane bodies
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- NEWLY RE-DESIGNED Bolt System! Fantastic Single Wall Bolt
- 9 3/4″ x 11″ Door opening
- 7 3/4″ x 11″ Door clearance
- Spring loaded hinges
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Monday, May 19th, 2008
Floor Safes model FS-B4 is the largest in B Rated Floor Safes in this line of steel safes. Extremely strong with 1/4 steel body and a massive thick steel door with drill resistant hardplate. Same quality workmanship goes into this floor safe as the other floor safes models FS-B1 and FS-B2.Â
The door is spring loaded for easy access. Just dial the combination, turn the handle, and Voila’ the door pops up and open. Much easier than removing the entire door to get to the safe on the smaller non-spring loaded hinge models.
There is a sort of down side to this unit. That is the length is 24 inches! Which is huge and you will need a long arm to reach the back of the safe model. Also can leed to confusion once this safe starts getting full. Best to figure out a way to organize this safe so you don’t have to empty the safe just reach something in the far back corner.  But on the bright side. If you are into installing floor safes…install a big one so you don’t out grow it.
Lock is Sargent and Greenleaf made in Kentucky. One of the best combination locks on the market today. Exported around the world. As a matter of fact this lock is exported to South Korea and put on the floor safes model. Then re-imported to the USA. (sounds a bit crazy to me but it works) Also, we can set this safe combination to your desired combination numbers. Just fill out the comments section with the combo and we can set it at no extra charge.
Be sure to wrap this floor safe in a plastic bag before you pour concrete around it. This will allow the safe to last longer, prevent rust, and keep her dry for years. I normally use either a very thick “lawn and leaf” bag or a thick painters drop cloth wraped around the entire floor safe.Â
Over all I give this floor safe a big thumbs up for quality and theft prevention. This is a top notch model on the market today.Â
One last item. In case you are asking yourself if this is fireproof. It is not. However, it does get fireprotection from the concrete you pour around it. I am unaware of any “Fireproof” floor safes. Because all the manufactures have designed the safe to be surrounded by concrete which is excellant protection against fire. You can see this model and other floor safes in our Floor Safes model section on Valuesafes.
Also be sure to read about our other floor safes models here in the blog. Just type in the model number and an article will pop up.
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Monday, May 19th, 2008
The floor safes model FS-B2 is a larger version of the FS-B1. Same top notch B rating with drill resistant hardplate. Spring loaded relocker to protect against proffesional theft attacks. Sargent & Greenleaf dial combination made in Kentucky which is designed to last the life of the safe. 1/2 inch steel door with (3) 3/4 inch bolts to keep the door from being pryed opened.Â
The body is 1/4 inch steel designed to protect your safe from shifting in the foundation or underground. (Be sure to wrap the safe in plastic before concreting into the foundation. This adds years of life to the steel and keeps out rust. )
Hinges are also spring loaded for ease of opening and closing the safe door. Because these doors on floor safes with all the steel in them and the hardplate gets very heavy. In my opinion its worth the extra money to get a floor safe with a spring loaded hinge.Â
I get a lot of people calling me and asking which floor safe I would choose if I were putting into my house. I don’t always answer very directly. But I do give strong suggestions to that if you are going to the trouble of installing a floor safe (and is more trouble to install then other types of Safes) make sure to get a B rated Floor Safe. Larger than what you think you will need because people always fill them up over time or before they go on a vacation…and you don’t want to have to install two of these. Also get one with a door that has spring loaded hinges so it is easy to get in and out of….this way you will use it. NO KEYPADS on FLOOR SAFES! Too many problems come from keypads on floor safes.Â
Visit our webpage for a good selection of Floor Safes or for more information check out www.safesblog.com. Which is a very good site giving information on safe models.
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Friday, May 16th, 2008
Lets take a look at floor safes model fs-b2. Which is the big brother to the fs-b1. Be sure to read my entry on that floor safes model because much of it will apply to this model as well. I have included some features below but I want to take a moment and point out that pratical and the P.I.T.A. side (pain in the arse) of floor safes.
First, I love floor safes. I believe these are the MOST secure style of safe on the market for homeowners in this price range. Think about it, starting price for b rated floor safes is under $400 and that includes shipping to you! You get a safe that is concreted into the foundation of the home and then hidden by carpet or a rug. Being hidden is a superior advantage in security. Because if they can’t find it…they can’t get into it. I have even had home owners that have lived in a house for years call me and say “We are changing out our carpeting in the master bedroom and we found a Floor Safe we didn’t know was there…can you tell me the combination?” (If its unlocked a locksmith can read the lock and find the combination). If a homeowner doens’t know whats in their own home just think about a burglar that is only there for 3-8 minutes!
Now lets pretend the thief finds the floor safe. And we have to pretend because it happens so rarely. But lets pretend we left the carpet pulled back and we posted a neon sign that says “Floor Safe Here!”Â
The thief says “Wow a floor safe, I’ll run to the garage and get a sledge hammer and bang in the door”. This won’t work because the door is acually sitting on an interior lip that keeps it from being banged into the safe.
30 minutes of banging later the thief is exusted from swinging the sledge hammer and says to himself “I really need to start working out again” gets the idea to try something else besides banging on the door. So back to the garage he goes and finds a crowbar and starts prying…which gets him now where except sweaty and tired.Â
He then thinks to himself that he better break for lunch before he tries tunneling under the house or renting a jack hammer for the next 5 hours! Now thats a great safe!
Check this model out on our Floor Safes page.
- Group II combination lock
- Drill resistant hard plate
- Spring loaded active relocker bolt
- 1/2″ solid steel door
- 1/4″ solid steel body
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- (3) 3/4″ chrome plated solid steel locking bolts
- 9 3/4″ x 11″ Door opening
- 7 3/4″ x 11″ Door clearance
- Spring loaded hinges
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Saturday, May 10th, 2008
Lets take a look at floor safe model FS-B1. Great B rated floor safe with spring loaded door for is access and entry. Very similar in size between the B1500 and the FS-B1 but the FS-B1 is a slightly larger floor safe. Notice the weight of the safe jumps from 85lbs to 110 lbs. Just that much more steel in used in it.Â
B Rated means it has quality steel of 1/4 inch in the body. There is also a drill resistant hard plate of 1/2 inch  in the door. This floor safe comes with a Sargent and Greenleaf Group II dial. With a spring loaded relocker. Made by our friends at Stanley in Kentucky. Yes, the lock is American.Â
Three 3/4 inch crome bolts keep the door secure from prying attacks. The door also rests on an metal edge that surrounds in the interior of the safe. This adds superior support from thieves using a sledge hammer on the door and tying to get it to collapse into the ground. However, this shelf changes the opening to 7 3/4 inch by 11 inches. So this floor safe is a bit smaller opening than its 14 1/4 by 14 1/4 body.Â
I would like to talk to you real quick about mounting this thing in the closet. Which is a very popular place to mount your floor safe. I recieved a phone call the other day from a lady that had a floor safe in the back corner of her closet. She said she was getting to old to have to pull up the carpet and get on her hands and knees with a flash light to dial open the safe. Hmmm, this is something to think about before you purchase a floor safe. I like good secure safe in every home but I don’t want it sooo secure that you will not be able to use it.Â
Visit our Floor Safe page and check out the diagram of the safe installation just above the various models of floor safes. Or feel free to call us at Valuesafes.com at 877-629-6214
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Friday, May 9th, 2008
Floor Safe model B1500 is the first of our B rated floor safes. This includes drill resistant hard plate that must be melted to breach the door. (I don’t know about you but I don’t hear of many thieves carrying blow torches.) Three locking bolts keep the door from being pulled open and a square resting plate for the door protects it from sledge hammer attacks and getting the door crushed inwards.Â
Concrete this safe into your foundation add the floor cover plate for a smooth finish. Cover with carpet. Done! You have some of the best protection available in the security industry.Â
At this point my wife would have me point out that if a fire did happen. You biggest problem most likely will not be the fire. But the water from the firemen. This is just the nature where you will be putting the floor safe. Which is just below ground level. If no water seeps inside the safe, which is possible, water will sit on top of the door but below the floor plate.Â
However, after Hurricane Charley in Punta Gorda, Florida, where we got our start, I recieved a lot of phone calls from people with floor safes in thier home that had been submerged from the salt water surge and flooding.  My wifes suggestion is to use ziplock bags or some other kind of water tight plastic container for your paper items and you should be alright.Â
The dial lock is designed to last a VERY long time….unless you get flooded by saltwater and that does nasty things to the metal parts after about a month. Oh, it will still work just not very well. You would want to get replaced when it dries out. If any rust occurs just sand it and paint it with “rustolium” from the hardware store. The steel is very thick. But how often does a hurricane like that happen? (More than what I want to go through again!)
This model is made in China but I would not call it a CCC (Cheap Chinese Crap!) Safe. Steel and bolts are very strong and durable. Group II lock is what you want and what comes with it. (Never put an electronic keypad on a floor safe) Overall the safe weighs a solid 86lbs of steel. The door is heavy but it is spring loaded. Which means once you dial open the combo and turn the handle, it will bounce about half way open. You will NOT have to lift the door out and set it aside. Which makes it easier to open and convient to work with…and the theory is if it easy and convient you will use it more often. In order to close the spring loaded door you just push down and it closes with ease. The springs just counter the wieght of the door and make it easy to open and close. See this model on our Floor Safe page.
Please read my other postings on floor safes. I give more information and tips for installing a steel floor safe. See diagram here FLOOR SAFE.
Overall its great quality and top notch security in this floor safe.Â
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